Interviews TORCH TALK DAILY with Eric Bischoff: "Nothing new and creative and cutting edge and industry-changing has come out of WWE since the '80s other than what they copied from WCW"
Nov 19, 2009 - 12:00:40 PM
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On Monday, September 14, PWTorch editor Wade Keller interviewed former WCW President Eric Bischoff an exclusive multi-hour "Torch Talk" interview covering a variety of controversial subjects from the Monday Night War period, his days on WWE TV, his 2006 autobiography, and the "Rise & Fall of WCW" DVD.
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We present today's latest question and answer from Part 4(b). Tune in tomorrow for the next series of Q&A's from part 4.
Eric Bischoff: ... I think he's (Vince McMahon) one of the least creative people that I've worked with. However, he is good at taking other people's ideas and twisting the, turning them, modifying them to fit the formula that clearly has worked for him.
Wade Keller: I think that will sound stunning to some people. I think it deserves a little more explanation. You think Vince McMahon is one of the least creative people you've run across. You've done a good job drawing the picture that he has his filter, his flavor that he puts on things, his voice. But from a creative standpoint, are you surprised that you found him not creative once you were around him more and saw first-hand how he operated? Because I would have thought, like most people on the outside, he must be very creative because he's the main booker for his promotion.
Eric Bischoff: I knew he wasn't creative back in the '90s when I was kicking his ass. Vince has one kind of creative formula that he's really been doing variations of since the '80s. The only time he kind of diverted from that formula is when he was forced to. And again this is going to sound like the McMahon-Bischoff War all over again. It is what it is, and it's my point of view. A lot of people will take credit for creating the Attitude Era. A lot of people take credit for the Stone Cold thing. A lot of people deserve credit for that stuff. But believe me, all of that was the reaction to the formula that was putting him into bankruptcy. Vince McMahon or anybody else in the WWF at the time didn't wake up one day and say, "You know what? We gotta shake things up. We're gonna change the formula, we're gonna depart from this cartoonish animated corny Doink the Clown formula we've been doing since the '80s and we're going to get tough, we're going to get edgy, we're going to become more reality based." That didn't happen.
What happened was they were getting their asses kicked for an extensive period of time, they were losing so much ground with the audience, and they were literally on the verge of bankruptcy, and they were forced to imitate the formula that we had laid out that caused that situation. That was the cause of the effect of the Attitude Era. We caused it. We changed it. We changed the world. We changed his world. We changed his world. I'll fast-forward ten years. Now that he doesn't have that kind of pressure on him, what is he going back to? He's going back to the same basic formulas he used in the '80s. To me, that's not creative. There's nothing new. Nothing new has come out of WWE. Many good things have come out of WWE. Many great things have come out of WWE. But nothing new and creative and cutting edge and industry-changing has come out of WWE since the '80s other than what they copied from us.
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