Interviews TORCH TALK DAILY with Eric Bischoff: "Why are promoters embarrassed to embrace the fact that ours is an art form and not a real contest?"
Feb 13, 2010 - 12:00:29 PM
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On September 14 and October 1, PWTorch editor Wade Keller interviewed former WCW President Eric Bischoff an exclusive multi-hour "Torch Talk" interview covering a variety of controversial subjects from the Monday Night War period, his days on WWE TV, his 2006 autobiography, and the "Rise & Fall of WCW" DVD.
The following is the latest installment of Part Nine (9) of the exclusive five-hour "Torch Talk" with former WCW President Eric Bischoff from October 1 - before Bischoff joined TNA and was just starting negotiations with TNA at the time. Part 9 of our daily Q&As will be published here at PWTorch.com, which is unprecedented with our VIP-exclusive "Torch Talk" series.
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We present today's latest question and answer from Part 9. Tune in tomorrow for the next series of Q&A's in Part 9 from the Eric Bischoff Torch Talk.
Wade Keller: I'm just saying you described his (Vince Russo's) argument, the argument that presents most often, that it's insulting the audience to present somebody who's all good and someone who's all bad, it's too black and white, shades of grey is the key. I totally disagree with that, too.
Bischoff: Yeah, we could go on and on and on about that. Movies don't work that way. You don't put a movie out there and a script out there and spend 80 million dollars on a movie and hope the audience is going to decide which character they like. That's the dumbest damn sh-- I've ever heard. And I think if there's something lacking right now, it's the commitment/ability by the people who are in charge, including Vince McMahon and the people around him or whatever is going on in TNA that I'm not aware of, nobody's really grabbed a hold of it and found a way to create that phenomenon that makes people go, "Wow, okay, that's not real, but holy crap, this is entertaining as hell," because emotionally they care. It doesn't have to be real.
I'm going back, I think, to part three of your run-on question. In my opinion - and I think you're guessing my opinion that it really doesn't matter. I think it does matter [that pro wrestling fans have been exposed to UFC for years]. If I woke up tomorrow morning and someone magically laid WWE at my door and said, "Do what you think should be done," the last thing that I would do, the last thing that I would do is try to make it more - this is going back to my "better to be different than less than" philosophy - I would be as different from the UFC as I could be. I would embrace the fact - I did this with CCW (Celebrity Championship Wrestling) and got my balls busted in the process - if wrestling is an art form, there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Why as performers, why as producers, why are promoters embarrassed to embrace the fact that ours is an art form and not a real contest? I think when we try to pretend - and I'm not saying by great acting and great performances, because there's a difference between pretending from a strategic point of view and pretending as an actor, but when we pretend as promoters and producers that it's more than it is, that's insulting to the audience. There is nothing wrong with embracing and actually turning up the volume on what I believe are phenomenal performance abilities and characters. Let's embrace that so we're not trying to compete with UFC because, guess what, if we try to pretend that it's real - Antonio Inoki - if we try to pretend that it's really one in the same, the audience will gag on it.
MORE TO COME TOMORROW WITH BISCHOFF TALKING MORE PRO WRESTLING vs. UFC...
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