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WWE Raw Reax #1: "This Shawn Michaels-Chris Jericho feud is borderline unwatchable. I get it, they hate each other. Just fight already."
Aug 25, 2008 - 11:35:26 PM


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Nick Haynes of Windsor, Mo. (6.5): Best Match: HBK-Jericho promo. Worst Match: Kingston-Marella. Well, this week was better than last, which isn't saying much. Kofi gets buried, oddly enough, under some manscaping. This whole championship scramble is lame. It's a Money In The Bank-style mini-Ironman match. And there's no building of a full storyline in the match, either. We know that Batista and Rey are hating Kane, but they don't care about C.M. Punk or JBL. We know JBL and C.M. Punk hate each other, but no cares about the other three. Without storylines, a gimmick like MITB or more time to tell stories, there's no compelling reason to watch it. Survive for 5-20 minutes, don't let another person get the pin after you, and you're the champ. Weak. I will be buying Unforgiven, however. Why? Because of Cryme Tyme (a great tag team and good promo potential), but more importantly, Shawn Michaels-Chris Jericho. This is easily going to be the Feud/Storyline of the Year, and quite possibly the decade. I could not care less about the rest of Raw, but you put five or ten minutes of this on there, and I will make sure to watch. We know they are two of the best in the ring when they're facing other wrestlers. When they face each other, they click. As long as they don't have very off nights, this one will be off-the-charts incredible.

Adam Dunn of Missouri (1.0): Best Match: None. Worst Match: Batista vs Kane. What a dull show. There was not one exciting, interesting thing about the entire show anymore. Raw has a total lack of substance anymore. It's just the same stuff over and over, week after week. How many times do we honestly have to see C.M. Punk vs. JBL? Why is JBL even in the Championship Scramble? Hasn't he lost to Punk over three times now? Thank God Cena is out for now. He needs a reboot entirely as his character was teetering on unwatchable. You can't even watch Ted DiBiase & Cody Rhodes now because they have been destroyed by Cena enough times. And finally, this Shawn Michaels-Chris Jericho feud is borderline unwatchable. I get it, they hate each other. Just fight already. I know they cut amazing promos, and they have great chemistry, but they are running this thing into the ground. People have been right in saying Smackdown is the A-show, 'cause it really is. The talent that is coming up over there is amazing. Raw? Same stuff, all the time. And now with Mysterio in the Scramble? Yeah, I'm switching to just watching Smackdown now.

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