Ask PWTorch MONDAY’S ASK PWTORCH ALL-STARS 3/29: How did Hunter justify winning Booker T feud given racist undertones to hype? What’s best use of Brock moving forward? Was Sting back-up plan at WCW Bash ’96? Dirty Deed change?
Mar 30, 2015 - 4:13:27 PM
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PWTorch reader Jeff from Michigan asks: What is the best use of Brock Lesnar moving forward? Should the WWE Title stay on someone else while he is near the main event?
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: The best use for Brock is what they’ve doing.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) I think you can go either way. Brock can regain his title and be champion again or finally start his babyface run without the belt. That's the beauty of re-signing him. There's plenty of money left in Lesnar either way.
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PWTorch reader J.B. asks: My question is about Bash at the Beach '96. I know Hogan and others have said the deal with him turning heel was down-to-the-wire type decision, and they have also said that Sting was the “back-up plan” to be the third man. Re-watching the match recently, the spot at the beginning where Sting accidentally takes out Lex Luger with a stinger splash (as Luger was tied up with Kevin Nash in the corner) seems like a set-up to potentially have an “out” for Sting to be the third man. Even Tony Schivonne refers to Sting on commentary as "long time friend [of Luger], partner, business associate... but also the man who took Luger out" etc... Does anyone know if perhaps this was put in the match so they could call a late audible to turn Sting if Hogan backed out of going heel? Or by the time the match started were all the pieces in place. Just curious if anyone has insider info.
INDY PROMOTER & ANNOUNCER Brad Stutts (Follow @cwfmidatlantic and @stuttsy and listen to his podcast at www.WrestlingWithOptimism) answers: I always thought of it as more of red herring than anything. While Hogan getting cold feet and backing out was certainly a concern, I would certainly assume by MATCH TIME they had it all worked out.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) By that time it was known Hogan was turning. It had been an open secret. Creatively it was done to swerve fans, but I'm sure it was also there as a back up incase Hogan got cold feet at the very last moment. Hogan is a smart man. He follows the money. The money was with the NWO.
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PWTorch reader Gary H. asks: Maybe someone can shed some light on this one. The question is twofold. First, why did Dean Ambrose change his finisher to the double arm DDT a while back? Second, why are the announcers still referring to it as “Dirty Deeds" still. It obviously changed and I think that annoys me more than anything else. I might be expecting to much from the current announce team.
INDY PROMOTER & ANNOUNCER Brad Stutts (Follow @cwfmidatlantic and @stuttsy and listen to his podcast at www.WrestlingWithOptimism) answers: I don't know specifically why they changed it, but I did notice that once Ambrose started working with established top guys like Randy Orton and Kane, they didn't exactly take it as well as guys like Kofi Kingston, so I wonder if switching to a more traditional move was beneficial in that regard.
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: I'm not sure why he changed it, but WWE probably liked the name and stuck with it. I'm sure the call came from Creative.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) This is not new in wrestling. Rick Rude's original version of the Rude Awakening was a DDT. Because the DDT was the finisher of Jake Roberts, Rude had to change his finish to the neck breaker. It had the same name.
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PWTorch reader Chris M. asks: As a black wrestling fan, you realize that to enjoy the product, you're going to have to ignore a bit of racism. From the overt (Cryme Tyme, Vince saying the N Word, and the ‘80s video of Slick eating fried chicken, started by a zoomed out close up of Slick's greasy lips) to the more subtle (Rusev squashing all the black guys, black guys other than The Rock never considered as The Guy), you tend to try to write it off as wrestling being populated by over-the-top characterizations. One that has always stuck in my craw, though, has been the build up to Booker T vs. Triple H at WrestleMania XIX. The table was set for the babyface to go over the racist champion, but Triple H pinned Booker. Why did this happen? If wrestling sends messages about bad guys getting their comeuppance in the end, what message did this one send?
INDY PROMOTER & ANNOUNCER Brad Stutts (Follow @cwfmidatlantic and @stuttsy and listen to his podcast at www.WrestlingWithOptimism) answers: That one has always been a head scratcher for me even if you take the racial overtones out of the story. If the heel says PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN'T BE CHAMPION to the babyface in a main event program, the babyface has to beat him or else he is dead in the water. That's Pro Wrestling 101, no matter if the heel is commenting on his race, height, weight, talent, whatever. The babyface proves the heel wrong or he is a failure. No idea why they set Booker up for failure in that program, but I always found it egregious.
REALITY TV STAR & EX-TNA MANAGER Jonny Fairplay (@jonnyfairplay was also former personal assistant to Roddy Piper and cohost with Sean Waltman of weekly podcast at www.ProWrestling.net) answers: The name of my kickball team a couple years ago was the “Jive Soul Bros.” We even got t-shirts from BarberShopWindow.com. Honestly, we just loved playing the song at the games and the shirts were cool... And yes, there was a black player on our team. Triple H beating Booker T was just them being racist and laying the foundation for "be a star" for years to come.
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