Ask PWTorch ASK PWTORCH ALL-STARS 10/23: When wrestlers do the DDT mid-match today is that disrespectful to Jake Roberts? Isn't having less frequent WWE Title defenses making title matches a bigger deal? Who should Stone Cold face? 2020's top stars?
Oct 23, 2014 - 9:36:47 PM
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PWTorch reader Aaron P. asks: Do you think it's disrespectful to Jake Roberts when somebody like Randy Orton or The Rock uses the DDT as just a move and not as a finisher? I went to a live event once where Orton DDT'd an opponent on the floor outside of the ring. When Jake did that to Ricky Steamboat it was a huge angle. Now it's just another move. It sort of reminds me of when guys used to always get pinned after getting hit with a steel chair, whereas now they often kick out. Did everyone all of a sudden become stronger or something?
VETERAN WRESTLING ANNOUNCER Mick Karch (announcer for three decades including the AWA on ESPN, the NWA, and LPWA, former PWTorch Newsletter columnist in 1980s, President of the Nick Bockwinkel Fan Club in the 1970s) answers: That has always been an issue for me. It's not limited to the DDT. Back in the day, if you were put in a sleeper hold (Verne Gagne), it was lights out. A lariat/clothesline (Stan Hansen), same thing. A piledriver (Mad Dog Vachon), match over. That's one major thing about the current product that just stinks. It absolutely minimizes (destroys) the work of the guys that blazed the trail.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) The DDT has been widely used in wrestling since Jake's first TV appearance in the WWF. Actually, "Playboy" Buddy Rose used the DDT on WWF TV in 1985 during his short run before Jake got to the WWF. Vince McMahon called it a reverse piledriver or a standing piledriver; I forget which. Jake, as you know, grew up around wrestling. Before Jake got into the business, a wrestler named Black Gordman used a similar move called the front chancery drop. Some have speculated that is where Jake got the idea. As far as being disrespectful, I would think he likes it. The move is associated with him and can serve to remind fans about Jake Roberts. It's a living legacy.
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: No, they did not become stronger. That said, no one does the DDT like Jake Roberts.
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PWTorch reader Iain B. from Scotland asks: My question this time relates to the present situation with the WWE Title not being defended regularly. We have all grown up with the regulation that the title should be defended every 30 days or forfeited if it is not. However, in boxing, the titles are defended maybe twice a year, yet no one claims they are any less valid or valuable. While I would have maybe shot some backstage scenes or sit-down interviews with Brock if the plan was to keep him off until January, could WWE not claim that they are in fact treating the title and champion more realistically by not having him defend so often, thus building anticipation? Incidentally, I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's something I've been wondering about. Thanks as always for all your work, guys.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) I don't remember the last time that the 30 day rule was mentioned on WWE TV. It's funny. There are often discussions about over-exposure, that titles don't mean anything, and that WWE should work harder to make things special. Now when the WWE Champion is no longer on TV each week, some don't want to give this experiment a chance.
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: I hate it, but it may help in this instance. I think it helps Brock.
REALITY TV STAR & EX-TNA MANAGER Jonny Fairplay (@jonnyfairplay was also former personal assistant to Roddy Piper and cohost with Sean Waltman of weekly podcast at www.ProWrestling.net) answers: It could easily be addressed by Paul Heyman as part of Brock’s contract. It’s little stuff like this that infuriates the long-term viewer and leads to lack of viewership numbers of the network.
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PWTorch reader Adam A. asks: If Steve Austin were to come back for one more match, who do you guys think he should face? Should he face a new guy or and old rival that he trusts? Maybe The Rock vs. Austin 4?
INDY PROMOTER & ANNOUNCER Brad Stutts (Follow @cwfmidatlantic and @stuttsy and listen to his podcast at www.WrestlingWithOptimism) answers: Obviously Punk was THE choice, but with him out of the way, Triple H or maybe Bray Wyatt come to mind as guys with whom Austin could have a great match and perhaps most importantly a great TV build to the match with.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) I don't think he will come back. If he were to come back, it would have to be a big name like John Cena, The Rock, or Brock Lesnar, He comes with a high price tag, so it would need to be a match that would attract the casual fan.
REALITY TV STAR & EX-TNA MANAGER Jonny Fairplay (@jonnyfairplay was also former personal assistant to Roddy Piper and cohost with Sean Waltman of weekly podcast at www.ProWrestling.net) answers: C.M. Punk, that's it.
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: Steve has everything to lose and nothing to gain. His character must always kick ass. They need to put him with a guy that will bump and feed for his whoop ass. I'd love to see him vs. Punk. Never say never.
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PWTorch reader Hem V. asks: Hey guys, thanks for the daily question and answers, love that and this whole entire site. My question is a bit of a fantasy booking type of thing. If you were the owner of the WWE in the year 2020 and John Cena, Alberto Del Rio, C.M. Punk, and Randy Orton had retired, then who would you have as the top three face and heel characters? I think the face of the company would be Roman Reigns, the second guy would be Daniel Bryan, and the third would be Cody Rhodes. Heel-wise, I think NXT guys will be the bad guys Corey Graves, Connor O'Brian, and either Wade Barrett (if he finally gets a good character) or Antonio Cesaro. So, my question for you is: If you ran WWE in seven years, who would you have lead the company and what about your choice made you pick them.
EX-ECW CHAMPION AND LONGTIME WWE WRESTLER Justin Credible (also current IWE Champion, visit www.TheJustinCredible.com and on YouTube here including his ongoing Wrestling 101 Series) answers: My choice for top babyface is Roman Reigns. Daniel Bryan will be done by then due to injuries. Bray Wyatt will have just turned heel again and Triple will be WWE Champ for the 23rd time. Plus Ric Flair will be wrestling next week on Raw 2020.
INDY PROMOTER & ANNOUNCER Brad Stutts (Follow @cwfmidatlantic and @stuttsy and listen to his podcast at www.WrestlingWithOptimism) answers: Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, Scott Dawson.
PROFESSIONAL BROADCASTER Jim Valley (Long time wrestling fan, Torch subscriber, and currently PWTorch Livecast guest host. He won a National Edward R. Murrow Award and several regional awards during his 20 year broadcast career. He has done TV announcing for several independent wrestling promotions, hosted his own wrestling radio show, interviewed many top stars, and was flown out to Stamford to audition for WWE. He took second to Todd Grisham.) In 2010, who knew about Roman Reigns outside of the Anoa'i family? Those are good choices, but 2020 is several eternities from now. Wrestling is a volatile industry. It's impossible to predict next year, let alone 2020.
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