PWTORCH.COM
VIP SIGN-UP JUMP TO VIP
CONTACT US VISIT MMA TORCH




Select Next Article by Category





TAKE PWTORCH
WITH YOU!

PWTORCH IPHONE APP
Get our iPhone App (FREE!): Click Here
Or enter "PWTorch.com" on your Blackberry or other Smart Phone browser for mobile-version of PWTorch.


DEJ Experience District
DEJ District's Jeremy: Does Vince bite the bullet and bring back the bad Joey Styles or does he stick with the atrocious Mike Adamle?
Apr 21, 2008 - 2:45:00 PM


By Jeremy Maes, DEJ Experience Member

So is it officially over now? Now that Joey Styles has been removed (for the time being) from the ECW announce desk, will the outcry of “This isn’t ECW!” finally cease? From day one of ECW’s return there have been rumblings and ill-feelings about WWE using the ECW initials. The last remaining wrestlers from the previous ECW are Tommy Dreamer, Nunzio, and Stevie Richards. There may be more, but the only person regularly featured is Tommy Dreamer. The aborted push of Stevie Richards relegates him to the also-ran status ion this equation.

It has gotten to the point now that anything resembling ECW rests in the hands of Tazz, but he is in the announce booth as well. He has become WWEized (trademark) in his demeanor and commentary. He is not the same and has not been the same wrestler or man since going to the announce position. In a few years he has gone from badass wrestler to shimmy and shaking wrestling announcer without a hint of irony.

Someone has to make a video for YouTube featuring a split screen of old Tazz and current Tazz. The contrast is stark and some people may not believe this is the same man. This is not a criticism, though. Tazz smartly parlayed his injury status into a position where he can make good pay and still hang around the industry. Sure, there was a momentary flirtation with radio, but as an outside observer, it would be hard for me to fathom him being satisfied with a gig away from wrestling.

Tazz’s choice may have been made for him due to injury and a need or desire to stay around the business, but Joey Styles returned of his own accord.

He was brought in for the initial One Night Stand PPV. He was allowed to be the ECW Joey Styles and it built up that hope with ECW fans. It was a hope that ECW would return and kick WWE in the balls even though it was now a “brand” of WWE.

Styles was placed in various announce positions and even called Raw for a bit and he just never clicked. He had to share the airwaves with Tazz and Jerry Lawler at different times instead of calling all of the action on his own. He drew the ire of Vince backstage and he soon became the whipping boy on the headset and backstage.

This all apparently led to the past few months of Styles’s atrocious announcing on ECW. ECW has been a decent show at best. There are enough barely-there storylines to keep bringing the people back to the show. There has also been enough action on the show to showcase newer wrestlers in between the mix of established wrestlers. It is far from a great or even good show but it has been passable. At this point in time though that is all WWE is probably going for.

During this time Styles has been barley noticeable on the broadcasts. Tazz has carried the bulk of the commentating when he is supposed to be adding the color commentary. Styles was reduced to calling and armbar here and there and then either had his mic shut off or he was pouting off camera. Dusty and I talked about this on “The Audio Experience” this week. The feelings haven’t changed. WWE was placed in this position due to Styles lack of improvement.

Styles had become a detriment to the broadcast. When he started calling the action he did so with no fervor and no vigor. It was clear he had lost interest. There were pronounced periods of dead air that killed the show. Tazz did his best to fill in some of this but he is not responsible, as the color man, to call the action. This was Styles job to get across the match, the upcoming angles and what is coming up for the rest of the show and even for next week.

Instead, the broadcast was filled with wrestlers who are not over wrestling in front of crowds who are a still filtering in to the building or are worn down after a Smackdown taping. Whatever the reason, the crowds are silent and there is a need for the announcer to cover this up. Styles failed regularly to do this. He has been in the WWE system long enough that he should have adapted. This should have never happened. The WWE should have never been put in the position to replace him but they had no choice.

TNA is regularly bashed due to the terrible over announcing of Tenay and West. WWE had the exact opposite problem with Styles and action needed to be taken.

They also had Mike Adamle in the wings collecting a handsome paycheck for very little work. Adamle is making a rumored $300,000 a year for what was essentially ten minutes of work a week. This could not have sat well with anyone in management as that is the price an actual wrestler can pull in for a year.

Of course, Adamle’s debut at the Royal Rumble got his stint off to an ominous start. He stumbled through his scripted lines and managed to botch the simple name of Jeff Hardy calling him Jeff Harvey. He was mercilessly and rightfully ridiculed for this, but it could have been dismissed as a once off event.

Unfortunately for Adamle his first night was just a sample of what was to come. He has not shown signs of improving. Each time he was on a live broadcast he stumbled over his lines and continued to show his lack of preparation. So this clearly means he was ready for a primetime job as an announcer.

Adamle’s first run as lead announcer on ECW was embarrassing. If he has a shred of professionalism he will watch this show over and over so it burns into his head. He needs to use this show like a shock collar. This way, whenever Adamle goes for the same fake enthusiasm and or tries calling a dropkick a leg kick, his head will shake violently as the electrical synapses fire off uncontrollably to prevent this from happening.

The criticism may be unwarranted seeing how this was his first run with the job he can improve. He can become a better announcer if he applies himself. He may not have applied himself up to now, but after last week's spectacle Vince has to be all over his case.

There is no way Vince will allow this to happen again even if it is on ECW. ECW still falls under his company’s banner and he has an obligation to provide reasonably good content. He cannot endorse bringing Joey Styles back so soon, but if Adamle does not improve in a few weeks, he may not be given a choice. As bad as Styles has been in the last few months, he was not this bad. Vince could also bring in someone else; a certain Josh Matthews is still sitting on the sidelines.

Regardless, Adamle has to be given a chance before the plug gets pulled. He will need to show signs of improvement, though, to warrant the chance. Vince can pull him in and tell him he is on a week-to-week basis now and another poor performance like that and he will be gone. It will ratchet the pressure, of course, but another terrible showing cannot be tolerated.

At the same time Adamle may actually be so bad that people will tune in to hear him. The thought would be that Mike Adamle is like "CSI: Miami"; they’re both great for the wrong reasons. Be certain though that Vince doesn’t want this to be the case. He wants his announcers to mold into his idea of an announcer. He already has one failure with Coach on his hands and he cannot allow another to grace the airwaves.

Vince has himself in a horrible position now. Does he bite the bullet and bring back the bad Joey Styles or does he stick with the atrocious Mike Adamle? Regardless of his decision, ECW may have just become a show to catch every week.

Jeremy Maes is the “J” of the DEJ Audio Experience. You can listen to that group of organized crime perpetrators every Wednesday night on the member’s portion of PWTorch.com. You can read Jeremy’s thoughts every Sunday on PWTorch.com. You can even contact Jeremy or any member of the DEJ faction on the PWTorch VIP Forum, or by email at theaudioexperience@gmail.com.



Send feedback on this article to pwtorch@gmail.com and we'll regularly publish reader feedback in the "Torch Feedback" category on the Main Listing.

For more BREAKING NEWS on WWE, TNA!
VISIT OUR AFFILIATE - PROWRESTLING.NET


For UFC & MMA NEWS & BLOGS:
VISIT OUR SISTER SITE - MMATORCH.COM

Upgrade to PWTORCH VIP: DETAILS & SIGN-UP INFO


MORE "DEJ Experience District" ARTICLES
DEJ Audio Experience: Summerslam, Monday Night Raw, ECW and A Very Special Announcement (5 min. free clip)
DEJ Audio Experience: WWE Cuts A Bunch of Talent, Even More Ashley Talk and Daytime Judge Shows.( 50min.)
DEJ'S Kevin - Covering Pro Wrestling Ohio - The Road to Wrestlelution Part I
Ask the Experience: DEJ guys field questions about Holly, chowder, best pants
DEJ District's Eric: How do the new WWE brand rosters shake out as of right now?
DEJ Kevin: Covering Pro Wreslting Ohio - The Art of the Promo
DEJ Jeremy: The One Hour Raw Experiment
DEJ Jeremy: Why the Hell Do We Care About Nick Hogan?
DEJ Kevin: Covering Pro Wreslting Ohio - Heel 101 Handbook
Ask the Experience Blog: The Chicago Cubs, Deepest Deep Purple and What The Hell is a Kilogram?
DEJ DISTRICT: Two legends, one ROH favorite to appear at card before HOF inductions
Jeremy's DEJ Blog: Time to Take Old Kurt Behind The Shed.
Ask the Experience Blog: Bette Davis eyes, Best ever King of The Ring and Havoc or KOTR?
Take It All. Please. McNEILL Previews WWE Judgment Day.
DEJ's Kevin: Josh Prohibition Interview
DEJ's Kevin: Covering Pro Wrestling Ohio - Breaking Down the Storylines
Ask the Experience Blog: King of The Ring prediction, Outdoor Amusement and Fuji General.
Jeremy's DEJ WrestleMania Weekend Diary: The Grand Finale:The Fireworks Incident, Terrible Winds, Terrible Karaoke and A Fleeting Touching Moment.
DEJ District's Kevin: Show Me More Air Time! - Updating Managers In Wrestling
Ask the Experience: Triple H's Hot Dog Technique, The Experience Wage Earner and The Coolest Entrance Music Ever

(c) 1999-2009 TDH Communications Inc. - All rights reserved.

Current Top Ten Staff Picks
Staff Picks
TNA News: Ratings are in for Thursday's Impact - did TNA retain the audience from last week's Hulk Hogan Impact?
WWE News: Major update on 2010 PPVs - price change, PPV name change, WWE addresses PPV criticism (w/Detailed Analysis)
WWE News: WWE announces details on three-hour Raw featuring Slammy Award Show and special guest host Dennis Miller
WWE News: Report on WWE's conference call with investors - serious discussion of WWE TV, Vince McMahon: "This is not a Family Business"
WWE News: WWE announces third quarter 2009 earnings results - revenue up due to int'l, PPV business weak
WWE News: Raw TV ratings are in - how did the Osbournes fare as guest hosts?
WWE/TNA News: Hulk Hogan claims he taught Vince McMahon the wrestling business, talks more about his role in TNA
WWE Raw Results 11/2: KELLER'S rundown of all matches and segments, plus analysis, star ratings, quotebook
TNA News: Ratings are in for Hulk Hogan Impact - did the publicity help TNA?
WWE News: Hulk Hogan knocks WWE Hall of Fame ring and Vince McMahon in mainstream interview


TORCH QUICK-CLICK REFERENCE LIST
-CLICK TO FOLLOW PWTORCH ON TWITTER!
-CLICK FOR OUR FREE PWTORCH IPHONE APP

-CLICK FOR OUR FREE PODCAST (#1 in iTunes!)
-CLICK TO GET INFO ON BECOMING A VIP MEMBER
-CLICK TO VISIT MMATORCH.COM
-CLICK TO VISIT PROWRESTLING.NET

-CLICK TO EMAIL PWTORCH EDITORS




PWTORCH READER POLL

How will WWE's price raise to $44.95 per PPV event affect you?
I buy many PPVs a year and will continue to do so regardless
I buy a few PPVs a year and will selectively continue despite the price raise
I will cut back somewhat as it seems a little pricey
I will cut back drastically as this feels like gouging
Out of principle and protest, I will stop ordering any other than maybe WM
They had previously priced me out of the market, so this affirms my non-ordering habits
I will order any and all WWE PPVs because price isn't an issue for me
Price doesn't matter. I've been watching pirate feeds for a while
  

VOTE IN OR SEE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS POLLS

ARE YOU VIP? SIGN UP NOW FOR $7.50 A MONTH FOR INSTANT ACCESS TO AD-FREE, BENEFIT-PACKED VIP VERSION OF PWTORCH.COM (see screen capture)
PWTORCH VIP HOME PAGE

INFO ON SUBSCRIPTION TO AD-FREE VIP SITE

INCREDIBLE BENEFITS!
Over 50 full-length audio updates per month (iPod compatible)... New weekly award-winning Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter (text and printable pdf versions) with latest exclusive insider news, new Torch Talks, great columns, Keller's cover story, much more... Hundreds of full-length back issues of PWTorch Newsletter from late-'80s to today... Ad-free access to PWTorch.com's Main Listing... VIP Forum with interaction with other subscribers and Torch staff... Torch Talk Library with text and audio of hundreds of interview installments from last 20 years... Great layout... Deepest archives on pro wrestling history anywhere... Keller's PWTorch Today PDF Bulletins with email alerts... VIP Email reports on major PPVs and TV shows... Staff Roundtable Reviews (text and audio) followiing major events... The best staff of writers and world class reporting since 1987... We'd love for you to join us and experience the most entertaining, authoritative, experienced staff of professional reporters and commentators in the business...

SIGN ME UP NOW!

Compare the value of four or five months of PWTorch VIP content to the price of just one PPV. Can you cut 25 cents a day from your budget to make room for PWTorch VIP?

AND NEW FOR 2009!
Monthly "Vintage Audio Torch Talks." We are releasing for the first time ever audio versions of our text Torch Talk updates, the historical first series of insider interviews ever. Wade Keller's newsmaking in-depth interviews with wrestling's biggest names are now being made available exclusively to VIP members. But you must be a member each month, as these are not archived, so they are replaced with a new one each month! This debuted in January 2009 with a 68 minute interview with the late "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith. Who's next? Hulk Hogan? Eric Bischoff? The Rock? Goldberg? Jeff Hardy?

SIGN ME UP NOW!


UPCOMING EVENTS LISTING

Articles Grouped by Category
Torch Today
TORCH MONTHLY AWARDS: List of the 2009 Torch Monthly Award winners through October
TORCH MONTHLY AWARD VOTING: Results for Best/Worst in pro wrestling for October
TORCH MONTHLY AWARD VOTING: Polls OPEN for best/worst in pro wrestling from the month of October (Part 2 of 2)
WWE News
WWE News: "Target" of Chris Jericho's drunken slur turns the incident into a joke (w/VIDEO)
WWE News: Raw guest host wins NASCAR race in WWE vehicle; WWE receives plenty of publicity during race coverage
TORCH TALK DAILY with Eric Bischoff: The first of a series of questions pushing for answers on Bret Hart's lackluster run in WCW - "Montreal was a life-threatening wound"
TNA News
TNA News: Ratings are in for Thursday's Impact - did TNA retain the audience from last week's Hulk Hogan Impact?
TNA News: Next week's TNA Impact - Sting reappearing to talk Hulk Hogan, A.J. Styles vs. Samoa Joe
TNA News: Watch TNA president Dixie Carter's "Love it or Leave It" speech to the roster from Impact (w/VIDEO)
ROH News
ROH News: Jim Cornette officially begins as ROH executive producer at today's ROH TV tapings (w/VIDEO)
ROH News: Ring of Honor receives positive press for ROH TV taping this weekend
ROH News: ROH TV episodes now available on DirecTV's Video-On-Demand service
Other News
Hogan News: Can Hulk Hogan wrestle again? Hogan needs help walking during TV interview (w/VIDEO)
DGUSA News: Gabe Sapolsky predicts the wrestling industry will die without new TV wrestling stars
Hogan News: Hulk Hogan cracks the Top 15 of a Best-sellers List
PPV Reports
RADICAN'S DGUSA "Untouchable" PPV review - Doi vs. Danielson, Shingo vs. Richards
10/25 WWE Bragging Rights Results: KELLER'S detailed match-by-match PPV report - Cena vs. Orton Iron Man match
CALDWELL'S WWE BRAGGING RIGHTS PPV REPORT 10/25: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of Cena vs. Orton, Team Raw vs. Team Smackdown
TV Reports
WWE SMACKDOWN ROUNDTABLE REVIEWS 11/6: Donofrio, Mezzera, Parks rate and review
WWE SUPERSTARS ROUNDTABLE REVIEWS 11/5: Caldwell, Donofrio, Parks rate and review
PARKS' WWE SMACKDOWN REPORT 11/6: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of the show, including Batista vs. Hardy
Arena Reports
11/6 WWE in Brussels: Undertaker vs. Punk casket match, Christian vs. William Regal, Cryme Tyme vs. Hart Dynasty, of course
11/4 WWE in Dublin, Ireland: John Cena vs. Jack Swagger WWE Title match, DX vs. Legacy, Randy Orton vs. Kofi Kingston
10/30 Dragon Gate in Germany: Young Bucks, CIMA vs. Mike Quackenbush, El Generico
MMA / UFC Coverage
Strikeforce News: Fedor vs. Rogers Fight Results - Exciting fight lives up to expectations live on CBS
FEDOR VS. BRETT ROGERS - Keller's detailed report, analysis, star ratings of CBS live MMA fight card (redirect)
FEDOR vs. BRETT ROGERS on CBS Saturday Night - Torch Team Coverage (redirect)
KELLER'S TAKE
KELLER BLOG: WrestleMania goes up to $55, all other PPVs $45 - let the pirate feed frenzy begin
KELLER BLOG: Dixie Carter asks wrestlers to step it up, but what does that mean? Shouldn't their goal to be winning matches and nothing else?
KELLER FLASHBACK: Review of Hulk Hogan's first autobiography - Hogan's political maneuvers evident in who he protects and buries
MITCHELL'S TAKE
MOJO MITCHELL'S RAW 11/2: Stream of My Fourth Grade Hero and The Mid-Card Kicks Main Event Ass
MITCHELL FLASHBACK #4: In 1993, after Hogan first left the WWF, he had a lot of career choices
MITCHELL FLASHBACK #3: Hogan's autobiography review - insight into his world
MCNEILL'S TAKE
McNEILL BLOG: The Big Questions About Hulk Hogan in TNA
Fight For Your Right to Bragging: McNEILL Previews WWE Bragging Rights!
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah! McNEILL Previews TNA Bound for Glory 2009
CALDWELL'S TAKE
CALDWELL'S BLOG: Vince McMahon is officially delusional, plus Vince's hidden message to Stephanie McMahon
CALDWELL'S TUESDAY CHAT w/GREG PARKS: Raw & Smackdown discussion - Orton-Kofi build-up compared to Rey-Batista, DX dissension, Sheamus stands out
CALDWELL FLASHBACK: TNA Year-End Review 2005 - Must-read flashback to when TNA became a choice for wrestlers in an era very, very similar to 2009
RADICAN'S TAKE
RADICAN: Daddy's little girl V 2.0 debuts on Impact
RADICAN: Wolfe-Angle follow up displays typical warning signs of danger from creative standpoint
RADICAN: TNA finally straps a rocket on the right ass
The Specialists
11/7 WWE Smackdown Hits & Misses: Mysterio vs. Knox, Punk vs. Truth, Batista vs. Hardy
PARKS BLOG: Chris Jericho should know better
UNDER THE MICROSCOPE - TNA Impact 11/5: TNA = The Office, What Vince Russo was thinking during Dixie Carter's speech, Desmond Wolfe and Duran Duran, Highlander spotting, Numbers - Titleholders since 1990
Guest Editorials
GUEST EDITORIAL: Disgruntled TNA fan says he's done with the promotion after today's Impact taping (Contains SPOILERS)
GUEST EDITORIAL: The ultimate irony - Hulk Hogan appears on TNA Impact and pre-taped TV sitcom promoting WWE on the same night
GUEST BOOK REVIEW: Hulk Hogan provides strong defense of his public image in new autobiography
Torch Feedback
WWE PPV Price Increase Reax #1: Outrage expressed over WWE's latest PPV price raise - could the backlash cause WWE to second-guess decision?
TNA Impact Reax #3: "The build for the PPV matches somehow featured Hulk Hogan despite him yet to show up on TV"
TNA Impact Reax #2: "I'm tired of non-stop talking. This isn't a Broadway play; it's professional wrestling and the best stories are told in the ring"
Ask the Editor
Ask the Editor: Wouldn't incorporating MMA-style holds into pro wrestling matches just be trying to be something it's not?
ASK THE EDITOR: Have the Michaels-Batista promos crossed a line with use of insider terms, references to "jobs"?
ASK THE EDITOR: Why do wrestlers in WWE refer to wrestling as "the business" and not "the sport"?
DVDs - VGames - Books
VIDEO GAME REVIEW - Smackdown vs. Raw 2010: WWE's latest video game called best since the No Mercy measuring stick
RADICAN'S ROH DVD REVIEW SERIES: 7/24 DBD VII: N1 - Hero & Richards vs. Storm & Steen
RADICAN'S CHIKARA DVD REVIEW: 5/24 "Anniversario Yang" - The Colony vs. F.I.S.T, 8-Man Tag
Torch Flashbacks
TORCH TALK FLASHBACK with Hulk Hogan: Hogan talks to PWTorch editor Wade Keller about Eric Bischoff, the demise of WCW
TORCH TALK FLASHBACK with Hulk Hogan: Hogan talks to PWTorch editor Wade Keller about his relationship with Ric Flair
TORCH TALK FLASHBACK with Hulk Hogan: Hogan talks to PWTorch editor Wade Keller about his relationship with Vince Russo
VIP Exclusive Features
5+ HOURS: Definitive all-new Eric Bischoff "Torch Talk" available exclusively to PWTorch VIP members
11/7 Bruce Mitchell Audio Show: Reader questions on Goldberg's Winning Streak, Zbyszko's HOF Credentials, Overrated Matches, X-Pac Sucks Chants, Test's Name, Paul Ellering's Story (44 min.)
11/6 Bruce Mitchell Audio Show: Why Vince McMahon said WWE isn't a family business, Hulk Hogan-TNA analysis, Dixie Carter's last-gasp speech (65 min.)
Torch Trivia
TORCH TRIVIA 2/28: Which wrestler backed out of a WWA PPV in February 2002?
TORCH TRIVIA 2/27: Who said this quote about Hulk Hogan's athleticism 11 years ago?
TORCH TRIVIA 2/25: What said this quote about WWE's mid-1990s drug testing policy?
Torch Instant Polls
INSTANT POLL: How will WWE's price raise to $4.95 per PPV affect you?
SMACKDOWN POLL: Who was the MVP of the 11/6 Smackdown if you saw the show?
TNA IMPACT POLL: Who was the MVP of the 11/5 Impact if you saw the show?
PWTorch Free Podcast
11/4 Nostalgia Audio with Brian Hoops: Format change to the show, new guest host, upcoming shows
FREE FOR ALL: 10/27 Bruce Mitchell Audio Special: Hogan-Bischoff-TNA story from all angles including Monday Night War II possibilities (32 min.)
6/23 Nostalgia Audio with Brian Hoops: Former WCW rapmaster PN News joins Brian Hoops to preview upcoming Midwest shows (10 min.)
Annual Obituaries
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 1999 - Muchnick, Rick Rude, Owen Hart, Renegade...
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2000 - Solie, Albright, Duncum, Tsuruta, Blue Demon, Al Costello
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2001: Johnny Valentine, Terry Gordy, Chris Adams, Bertha Faye, Helen Hart