PWTORCH.COM
VIP SIGN-UP JUMP TO VIP
CONTACT US VISIT MMA TORCH




Select Next Article by Category



WE ARE A PROUD UGO AFFILIATE SINCE 1999




Pro Wrestling Illustrated

Support Our Sponsor: PWI!

===========================

CHECK OUT OUR AFFILIATE WRESTLING NEWS SITE - THE FASTEST GROWING PRO WRESTLING SITE IN 2008! (click on logo)

prowrestling.NET




Guest Editorials
EDITORIAL: Response - Why too many shades of grey with wrestling characters is counter-productive (with Reader Poll)
Mar 19, 2008 - 11:34:34 AM


Email This Article- Contact Us - VIP Sign-Up - Back to Home Page

| subscribe to this feed

Editor's Note: At PWTorch.com we strive for our content whenever possible and practical to be original and unique (i .e. not published on other sites), therefore Guest Editorials submitted to PWTorch. com should be submitted only to PWTorch. com. If you submit a Guest Editorial for consideration, please state at the top of your editorial that you submitted it only to PWTorch. com. For more details on submitting Guest Editorials, check out a detailed submissions guide following today's Guest Editorial below.

GUEST EDITORIAL
By Shane McKinley, PWTorch.com reader


Regarding the editorial on faces and heels, I think why we clamor to define wrestlers as faces or heels is because it defines what they can do, how they act, and what we should expect of it. It would make very little sense, for example, for Batistia to get a countout victory vs. MVP on the next Smackdown. The announcers would have to announce why he did so. Then you would have to give some time on the next show to have Batistia explaining his actions ("I just didn't want to fight anymore."). Then he goes out and wins a match cleanly, but the fans won't trust him as a face.

AustinSteveArt_130GG_4.jpg
Steve Austin [artist Grant Gould (c) PWTorch]
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin was brought up, but Stone Cold in himself was an anaomly in wrestling (along with the NWO), in that they did heelish actions but yet were considered cool and got over. While the NWO faced off against the NWO and then itself, Stone Cold faced against refs, announcers, and then the big cheese Vince himself. I cheered when Stone Cold turned heel at WM 17 because it made perfect sense, and it was fun to see him turn heel. What is not fun is writers and bookers having wrestlers turn face/heel because they are either lazy, apathetic, or think that it's cool to do heelish actions.

So in being a face or a heel is not really a question. It's just how effective wrestlers can be in their roles. Kennedy goes as very well as a heel, but could he be a effective face?

Plus being labeled a face or a heel defines the relationship between the two people in a feud, since wrestling is built on feuds. It makes much better sense to have face Samoa Joe go against a heel Kurt Angle.

Another thing about wrestling is that everybody is free to choose who to boo or who to cheer. Wrestlers don't want fans to not care about them at all. So little kids can boo Chuck Palumbo when he rolls out to the ring and cheer Jamie Noble, or whatever. It's sometimes best to keep things simple. It doesn't matter in the big picture if Show-Mayweather is the worst match of all time. If it got outside people to buy the PPV, then it suceeded.

Would it have been great to see manical and delusional Ric Flair again? Absolutely! Would it have been great to see a complex storyline invovling Ric Flair? Yes! However, while the current Flair storyline is not astounding by any means, one cannot deny that it hasn't worked. Remember, wrestling companies are always interested in gaining new fans as well. The "Flair's career may be over tonight" bit did work as people might tune in. If it was just heel Flair and face Triple H, for example, while that might be a great storyline, it wouldn't have helped MVP, Kennedy, Orton, Vince, HBK, and the Hall of Fame. And for whatever reason WWE feels that the Flair storyline should not be a biggger deal than the Raw or Smackdown championship picture.

Us dumb wrestling fans do need wrestlers defined as "good/bad." If you have two tweeners face each other, the fan involvement won't be the same. True, many wrestling fans would like to see more complex psyche in wrestlers, but then you lose the kids market, and then you also have to devote time to explaining the sudden face/heel changes in a character if you want fans to trust their particular favorite wrestlers.

There has to be a reason wrestlers are faces and heels, which is so that fans can emotionally involve themselves with the wrestlers. Having a lot of tweeners hurts business because it's harder to gets fans feeling passionately one way or another about a particular wrestler.

You are invited to submit a "Torch Guest Editorial" for possible publishing on this site in future days. For submission guidelines and the current email, click here.


Would you like characters in WWE and TNA better defined as heels and faces than they are now?
Yes.
No.
  




Download Audio Sample:

For more BREAKING NEWS on WWE, TNA, ROH
visit our affiliate: JASON POWELL'S PROWRESTLING.NET

For UFC AND MMA NEWS & BLOGS
visit our affiliate: MMATORCH.COM - now featuring the MMATorch Daily Audio Update!

REACT TO THIS STORY IN OUR FREE PWTORCH FORUM

PWTORCH VIP SIGN-UP INFO - NO ADS, EXCLUSIVE CONTENT

| subscribe to this feed

Guest Editorials
Latest Articles by Category
EDITORIAL: What's wrong with Raw this year? A lot. But one core problem trumps the rest
EDITORIAL: Tag Team Divisions will not get over until squash matches return
EDITORIAL: C.M. Punk needs a prominent program to make him the star of Raw
EDITORIAL: Why Mr. Kennedy is the perfect solution to the announcer situation
EDITORIAL: One fan's proposal for Summerslam's final line-up and results - Cena, Batista, Punk, JBL, Hardy, Phoenix
EDITORIAL: C.M. Punk needs to win clean at Summerslam, and acceptance like Bret Hart received could follow
EDITORIAL: The latest TNA PPV is probably a prime example of why I don't buy their PPVs
EDITORIAL: John Cena Needs to Turn Heel - A.S.A.P.
WWE Raw Reax #2: "Why wasn't Triple H a little upset for McMahon throwing Flair out the building?"
EDITORIAL: Why One Million Dollars Won't Fix the Endemic Problems with Raw
EDITORIAL: K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple, Stupid!
EDITORIAL: Scrap the Raw General Manager role, which has become a stale lazy plot device

(c) 1999-2008 TDH Communications Inc. - All rights reserved.

Latest Free Podcasts
PWTorch Free Podcast
8/29 Daily Keller Hotline: Sting's monumental promo on Impact dissected, full show analysis (27 min.)
8/29 Mitchell Audio Show: Cena Injury, Rey's Return, Independent Contractors, Jericho-Michaels (75 min.)
8/27 VIP East Coast Audio: Impact - A show that did everything it could do to turn people away from wrestling (79 min.)
8/28 Radican Audio Showcase with Burgan: Foley to TNA, HBK-Jericho capture the heart and mind, Torch Draft, more! (5 min. free clip)
8/28 Daily Keller Hotline: Analysis of lawsuit contending WWE wrestlers should be employees (5 min. free clip)
8/27 VIP East Coast Audio: ECW - An ass backwards show befuddles the hosts, Henry's character takes lousy turn (47 min.)





LATEST PRO WRESTLING TORCH NEWSLETTER #1040 (18 PAGES)

This issue begins with a cover story by Wade Keller looking at the final scene of SummerSlam and why it's bad for WWE not in and of itself, but due to the context it's put in... In-depth coverage of the WWE SummerSlam PPV including Keller's match report with star ratings and the newsletter-exclusive Roundtable Reviews and Reader Reax... Jason Powell's "Page 2 Buzz" with scoops and insider analysis on Mick Foley, TNA's expiring contracts, and more... Bruce Mitchell's Memo further reviews the latest Ric Flair DVD... WWE Newswire, TNA Newswire, and ROH Newswire with insider news, big story analysis, and notebook tidbits... Plus Keller's reports on Raw, Smackdown, and Impact, the Top 5 Stories of the Week, and more... PDF EXCLUSIVE features include the Jon Mezzera's Weekly Hits & Misses and Greg Parks' look at SummerSlam and Smackdown...

INFO ON SUBSCRIPTION TO NEWSLETTER AND AD-FREE VIP SITE

DOWNLOAD RECENT (5-10-08) SAMPLE OF PWTORCH NEWSLETTER (PDF)


PWTORCH READER POLL

What are your thoughts on the WWE Championship Scramble concept?
Big thumbs up. I'm excited to see it.
Tentative thumbs up. I'll need to see it first.
Tentative thumbs down. It sounds like a mess.
Big thumbs down. A disaster in the making.
I have no idea. I'm totally confused by it.
  


VOTE IN OR SEE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS POLLS

UPCOMING EVENTS LISTING

Articles Grouped by Category
Torch Today
PRIORITY DRAFT TRADITION CONTINUES: Which ten wrestlers would you start a promotion from scratch with?
TORCH NEWS TICKER 8/29: Kowalski fundraiser, WWE lawsuit update, Midway Q&A on TNA video game, ROH Notes
TORCH NEWS TICKER 8/22: Results Wanted, Austin return date, Batista comments on Cena match, Kofi and DDP interviews
WWE News
WWE News: Jakks Pacific claims WWE lawsuit dismissed; WWE to continue suit
WWE News: A YouTube video puts new spin on Shawn Michaels-Chris Jericho saga
Ratings News: John Cena surgery a success, estimated time out of the ring determined (w/Keller's Analysis)
TNA News
Interview Highlights: Chris Jericho talks about Guitar Hero, Reinventing his Character, Short Tights
TNA News: Details on Gail Kim's reasons for leaving TNA come to surface this week (w/Keller Analysis)
TNA News: WWE legend Mick Foley agrees to terms with TNA, set to debut as soon as September (w/Keller Analysyis)
ROH News
Interview Highlights: Roderick Strong on his stint with TNA, lagging promo skills, indys working together
7/25 ROH in Toronto: "That show was the first thing to make me proud to be a wrestling fan in a LONG time."
ROH News: Lance Storm interview on working with ROH wrestlers and injuries in pro wrestling
Other News
Torch Indy Weekend Preview: Steen in IWS, Shiozaki in FIP, Delirious in Elite Pro
Torch Indy Weekend Report: Sabin & Shelley, Lynn, Jake Roberts, ROH results
ETC. News: Jesse Ventura in talks for a court show, according to TV Week (w/Keller Analysis)
PPV Reports
CALDWELL'S WWE SUMMERSLAM REPORT 8/17: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of live PPV
KELLER'S WWE SUMMERSLAM REPORT 8/17: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of live PPV event
KELLER'S TNA HARD JUSTICE PPV REPORT 8/10: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of event - Samoa Joe vs. Booker T in cage
TV Reports
8/29 WWE SMACKDOWN: Parks's Coverage of the CW Show
KELLER'S TNA IMPACT REPORT 8/28: Sting finally addresses speculation, Nash vs. Angle, Beautiful People vs. Taylor & Roxxi
8/28 TNA IMPACT Review by Wilkenfeld: Sting steals the show
Arena Reports
8/24 WWE Smackdown in Canton, Ohio: Triple H & Undertaker vs. Khali & MVP, R-Truth vs. Carlito, Michelle vs. Maryse
8/24 TNA in Wichita, Ks.: Samoa Joe vs. A.J. Styles, Morgan vs. Kip, Knockouts Title Match, Lethal vs. Dutt
8/24 WWE in Bethlehem, Pa.: Cody & Ted vs. Cryme Tyme, Jericho & Kane vs. Cena & Batista
MMA / UFC Coverage
UFC News: Paul Heyman comments on Brock Lesnar's controversial post-fight antics last Saturday
KELLER'S UFC 87 LIVE PPV REPORT; On-site ongoing coverage of Lesnar's second UFC fight, full card coverage
UFC 87 PREVIEW: Fight analysis, predictions, odds for Lesnar vs. Herring, GSP vs. Fitch, Huerta vs. Florian
KELLER'S TAKE
VIP - KELLER: More crazy G.M. ideas for WWE to consider (PWTorch Newsletter #1037)
KELLER: An overhaul is in order for Raw before ratings drop further - several specific suggestions
KELLER: McMahon Returns for That? Nothing Funnier than a DUI! Let Me Shift So You Can Hit Me!
MITCHELL'S TAKE
MITCHELL'S BLOG: Notes From the 2008 NWA Fanfest - Ric Flair
WWE News: Flair's departure from WWE amicable, nostalgia convention circuit could be next
VIP - MITCHELL'S MEMO: DVD Liner Notes Part 3: Nature Boy Ric Flair - The Definitive Collection
MCNEILL'S TAKE
Ready To Roll! McNEILL previews WWE SummerSlam
Rap It Up: McNEILL previews TNA Hard Justice!
VIP - MCNEILL FACTOR: Twenty Years of Summerslam, part two
CALDWELL'S TAKE
CORNER CUBE TUESDAY 8/26 - Raw delivered highlights, but was heavy on filler
CORNER CUBE MONDAY 8/18 - Shawn Michaels showed strength, not weakness by not attacking Jericho
CORNER CUBE WEDNESDAY 8/13 - Finally, Matt Striker has found his calling with ECW on Tuesday nights
RADICAN'S TAKE
TALES FROM THE PULPIT 7/23: McGuinness & Jericho setting standard for heels in 2008
DEJ's Kevin: Covering Pro Wrestling Ohio - The Ladder Match for the Heirloom Swords Part I
TALES FROM THE PULPIT 7/21: The man who talks poopy and defies fire can’t escape the windshield of doom!
The Specialists
ECW Storylines and Feuds - A look at the ECW Championship Scramble and the Finlay-Knox feud
CAREER PATH: Christian Cage's career high point, low point, and what if he had never left WWE?
UNDER THE MICROSCOPE - 8/28 TNA IMPACT: What I noticed on the show that you might not have
Guest Editorials
EDITORIAL: What's wrong with Raw this year? A lot. But one core problem trumps the rest
EDITORIAL: Tag Team Divisions will not get over until squash matches return
EDITORIAL: C.M. Punk needs a prominent program to make him the star of Raw
Torch Feedback
DRAFT PICKS - Batch #5 featuring top picks of Sting, Rob Van Dam, Edge, plus Danielson, Shelley, Bourne, Briscoes
DRAFT PICKS - Batch #4 featuring top picks of Nigel, Edge, Awesome Kong, plus CIMA, Bourne, Hogan, Ross, Kim
DRAFT PICKS - Batch #3 featuring top picks of Mick Foley, Brian Danielson, John Cena, plus Abyss, Shiozaki, Teddy Hart
Ask the Editor
Ask the Editor: Wouldn't incorporating MMA-style holds into pro wrestling matches just be trying to be something it's not?
ASK THE EDITOR: Have the Michaels-Batista promos crossed a line with use of insider terms, references to "jobs"?
ASK THE EDITOR: Why do wrestlers in WWE refer to wrestling as "the business" and not "the sport"?
DVDs - VGames - Books
WEEKEND DVD SPOTLIGHT: SHIMMER Vol. 18 (Kong-Busic,Del Rey-MsChif)
RADICAN: Al Snow discusses his wrestling career, philosophy, time in OVW, and more in new interview
DVD Review: ROH "Glory By Honor VI, N2" with Kenta vs. Misawa, 110307
Torch Flashbacks
KELLER'S TNA REPORT 5 YRS. AGO (8-28-03): Truth, D-Lo, Abyss, Sandman, Raven, Styles, Dusty
KELLER'S WWE RAW REPORT 5 YRS. AGO (8-25-03): Gail Kim vs. Trish, Jericho headlines Raw against... Shane McMahon? Linda a guest on Highlight Reel,
WWE Smackdown Reax #1: "This is the worst wrestling show I have seen in a long time with booking that defies all logic and common sense."
VIP Exclusive Features
8/29 Daily Keller Hotline: Sting's monumental promo on Impact dissected, full show analysis (27 min.)
8/29 Mitchell Audio Show: Cena Injury, Rey's Return, Independent Contractors, Jericho-Michaels (75 min.)
8/27 VIP East Coast Audio: Impact - A show that did everything it could do to turn people away from wrestling (79 min.)
Torch Trivia
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about Champion vs. Champion matches?
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about SummerSlam - Part 3
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about SummerSlam - Part 2
Torch Instant Polls
POLL: What are your thoughts on the WWE Championship Scramble concept?
POLL: Should the TNA Knockouts women wrestlers be paid in the same ballpark as the male wrestlers?
POLL: Who is your pick as the MVP of the August 11 edition of WWE Raw?
PWTorch Free Podcast
8/29 Daily Keller Hotline: Sting's monumental promo on Impact dissected, full show analysis (27 min.)
8/29 Mitchell Audio Show: Cena Injury, Rey's Return, Independent Contractors, Jericho-Michaels (75 min.)
8/27 VIP East Coast Audio: Impact - A show that did everything it could do to turn people away from wrestling (79 min.)
Annual Obituaries
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 1999 - Muchnick, Rick Rude, Owen Hart, Renegade...
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2000 - Solie, Albright, Duncum, Tsuruta, Blue Demon, Al Costello
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2001: Johnny Valentine, Terry Gordy, Chris Adams, Bertha Faye, Helen Hart